49 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Bolster Member Posts 3357 Joined Sat Mar 03, 2007 727 pm Location CalyFRNia. That also depends on who you get the knife from, heat treament etc. Post by FeistyKat Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. Re M390 vs S90V. I'm looking at the upcoming release of the Native Chief Brown G-10 M390 Sprint Run (C244GDBN) next Tuesday. Like the S90V it has high levels of chromium and vanadium. I prefer s45vn to s30v, but only because s45vn is significantly more stainless than s30v. Corrosion Resistance 18 of Chromium for stainless steel, is a great proof for an excellent corrosion resistance. M390 vs S90V. Click to expand. S90v in the Spyderco Fred Perrin PPT is also a great performer and surprising favorite. Depending on actual use a person may or may not see the difference. Re M390 vs S90V. Edge Retention. Week before I got an S90V ZT 0095 but didn&39;t get around to fixing the edge up until last week. M390 is also relatively stainless. The M390 and CPM 20CV are almost the same steel with minor differences. S60V has yet higher edge retention and probably is not much more difficult to sharpen. Carbon makes steel hard and also enhances its ability to bear any weartear. When I sharpened S90V it seemed to perform better with a toothier (300-400 grit) edge than M390 at the same grit. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. m39020cv vs s30v. As per the hardness results, S30v has more excellent toughness than the M390. Edge retention between s30v and s45vn seems similar, but I&x27;ve had s30v rust in my pocket while s45vn has proven to be m390-level stainless. M390 vs S90V. M390 vs S90V. similar to S90V and S110V, perform better when sharpened to low grit size to retain their &x27;toothiness&x27; for aggressive cutting performance. My particular brownm390 variant is a little smoother and easier to manipulate. >> See knives with M390 steel. The closest steel to our K390 would be the S90V Stainless Steel, in exception for corrosion resistance (S90V offers a better corrosion resistance compared to the K390),. Search Advanced search. Cronidur 30 D2 steel Elmax G10 grivory H1 H2 LC200N M390 MagnaCut MC66 Micarta n690 Nitro-V pocket knife Rex 45 rex 121 s30v S35VN S45VN S90V SG2 SPY27 Tanto vanax VG 10 Steel w2 steel. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. M390 is same as CPM S30V. Forum rules. M390 vs S90V. Manix2 S110V. Re m39020cv vs s30v. The main differences between the two are price, edge retention, and ease of sharpening. Post by Bolster &187; Thu Oct 13, 2022 1130 pm. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. Aug 29, 2022 About M390 Steel. M390 vs S90V. S90V VS M390 Fight Post by hawaiihunter Thu Mar 22, 2012 259 am. The thread seems to point towards M390 being a superior steel as well easier to sharpen compared to the S90V. ZDP-189 is good stuff but, for cutlery, M390 just seems categorically better. However, CPM-M4 is known for holding an edge slightly longer than M390, although the difference is minimal. m390 is supposed to split the difference between the other two and s30v. However, D2 contains a higher level of carbon and chromium compared to S90V. Differences Which one is best in which parameters So without further ado Let&x27;s walk you through about S90v and M390 Table of Contents Does S90v Stainless Steel Good For A Knife S90V is also known as CPM-S90V or CPM-420V, these are the name of the same steel manufactured by the C rucible Industry. Howdy do, again. S30V boasts superior hardness, edge retention, and corrosion resistance, making it a harder steel that delivers more bang for the buck. It&39;s very stainless and very tough, especially in the 57-59 Rc range. Though the margin of difference between the two is not that great it is noticable. 9 carbon, 0. Search Advanced search. S90V VS M390 Fight Post by hawaiihunter Thu Mar 22, 2012 259 am. s35vn steel is a lot tougher compared to s90v steel. Edit forgot to include Elmax. 20CV took the win with cutting aggressiveness. You might enjoy a K2 in 10v. 2 (66) USD 43. M390 vs S90V. 93 for M390). Here is the short answer In most cases, S90V is better than D2. S90v Vs 20cv Both the S90V and the 20CV are considered super steels and their main difference lies in their material composition. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Next; skeeg11 Member Posts 1417 Joined Thu Feb 20, 2020 545 am. Re M390 vs S90V. Quench to below 125F. Further fast-quench and cold treatment are recommended at 400F temperatures depending on the desired levels of. m390 corrosion resistance. The edge retention of S30V is still pretty good relative to other knife steels, better than steels like XHP, Elmax, 154CM, 440C, etc. If the M390 geometry is thinner, if it&39;s thinner behind the edge, anything that could skew the test will. Are there any advantages of S110V over S90V Also how does M390 compare Thanks. Manix 2 (M4), SB MT, PM2 M390, CF dodo, Manix2 (CF S90V), Manix2 XL S90V, Zowada CF Balance Rassenti Nivarna, Lil&x27; Nilakka, Tuff,. S35VN is cheaper and easier to sharpen, but its edge doesnt last as long. CPM MagnaCut is produced by Crucible and hot rolled and distributed by Niagara Specialty Metals. Plus the blue look s better IMO. Aug 11, 2012. Re m39020cv vs s30v. This steel is primarily used to make high-end custom knives. Which steel in your opinion is superior to the other as a well rounded steel. As such a knife made from M390 steel will retain its sharpness for a very long time. Post by FeistyKat Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. Search Advanced search. I wonder if loading the CATRA edge retention tester with a standard fibrous card stock without silica sand material, if the s110v would out perform the s90v or show a different result. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Both 20CV steel and Bohler m390 steel are super steels produced following the powder metallurgy, and most of their properties are similar. Postby Bloke Wed Feb 09, 2022 831 am. When it comes to the edge retention, both k390 steel, and s90v steel are about the same. Prior to this post, I had not wrapped my head around how important RC and how much variation in edge retention that may. 35 posts 1; 2; Next; Ankerson Member Posts 6706 Joined Sat Jul 24, 2010 723 pm Location Raleigh, NC. Re M390 vs S90V. Both ELMAX and M390 will take a frightening sharp edge and hold it for a very long time with the edge going to M390 for longer edge retention. What it is M390 stainless steel, a powder-metallurgy material produced by Bohler-Uddeholm, is widely regarded as a "super steel" for its properties and performance. That also depends on who you get the knife from, heat treament etc. Yes, I found this too. Howdy do, again. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Native Chief S90V Rex45. M390 vs S90V. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. Thats probably just down to the particular individual I received, though. 9 carbon, 0. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. I&x27;m looking at the upcoming release of the Native Chief Brown G-10 M390 Sprint Run (C244GDBN) next Tuesday. Post by z1r Mon Sep 20, 2021 251 pm. S90V VS M390 Fight Post by hawaiihunter Thu Mar 22, 2012 259 am. Home; 2023-12-08; 2023-12-07; 2023-12-06; 2023-12-05;. There are very few folders with 3V (Spyderco Tuff is the only one I can think of), and I have never seen a. Nov 25, 2014. In conclusion, S30V steel is a powder metallurgy steel with better alloy composition and better performance than VG 10 Steel in edge retention and wear resistance. Its a very hard steel and is exceptionally difficult to sharpen. 2 more Vanadium elements. Though the margin of difference between the two is not that great it is noticable. S35VN VS Elmax. Re M390 vs S90V. Rex45 is a bit tougher than M4 (better for extreme geometry) and has slightly more corrosion resistance (more like a 3). But when both are taken up to 1000 grit and higher, M390 seems to perform much better and holds it&39;s edge for a really long time, while S90V is still sharp, it&39;s not as razor sharp due to the carbide overload. 39 0427 71814 39 0427 730376. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. bevVLEcPbu4vQ----- https. I also did experiments to analyze the different products including carbide size, impurity levels, and inclusions. 40 posts Previous; 1; 2; z1r Member Posts 1510 Joined Fri Mar 19, 2021 439 am Location Lakewood, CO. S390 steel also offers better edge retention and stability than M390 steel, it does this due to its high attainable Rockwell hardness. Elmax vs M390. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Bolster Member Posts 4362 Joined Sat Mar 03, 2007 727 pm Location CalyFRNia. Which steel in your opinion is superior to the other as a well rounded steel. PS- If M390 is on the same graph I wouldn't mind either. I'm looking at the upcoming release of the Native. Also it's super easy to sharpen on the go; a few swipes with a Fallkniven DC-4 and that edge is ready to work. In many ways M390 is a souped up Elmax. Post by FeistyKat Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. S90V Steel. D2 is cheaper and has relatively the same toughness, so if you dont want to spend a lot of money then go with D2. 7 of Silicon Gives extra hardness to the steel, and keeps air bubbles from forming in the melting process. Post by FeistyKat &187; Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. It's not an issue with my Edge Pro, but it takes a little longer. Previous steels like S60V, Elmax, and M390 all had 17-20 Cr which gave them more chromium carbide and less vanadium carbide. Their hardness, toughness, and flexibility vary, but they are used in the same applications. Diamond and CBN sharpeners are equalizers - all steels can be sharpened in just a few minutes. Forum rules. Thread starter Neo; Start date Nov 18, 2015; N. The characteristics of high-end knives can be very similar, which can be confusing to newbie knife users. Forum rules. However, S90V beats its counterpart in toughness. Thanks, Jim. In that case the added Vanadium content of S90V at 9. However, S35VN falls weak in edge. If your main priority is a knife that does not require frequent sharpening, go for S90V. And comparisons between toughness of. With 20 Chromium, M390 offers superb corrosion resistance, even surpassing S45VN. Oct 24, 2017 Both s90v and m390 are very stainless. Depending on materials and environment one or the other can last longer. Post by FeistyKat &187; Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. Shootout M390 vs S90V CF Military&x27;s Edge retention on 58" Manila rope. 9 carbon, 20 chromium, etc. Looking for Grey Cts-20cp Paramilitary 2 Green Cts-204p Paramilitary 2 S110v Mule Currently own Tenacious, Green Cts-204P Paramiitary 2. Regarding sharpness, M390 can be honed to a sharper edge than S30V, so it&x27;s better suited for precision work. 90 ounces will start shipping in December 2017 for 215. M390 is stainless but K390 isn't very prone to rust neither K390 has a much higher edge. It can withstand rigorous use without chipping or breaking. They offer the same level of edge retention, toughness, corrosion resistance, and ease of sharpening. M390 vs S90V. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. "You can never have too many knives," according to Logen Ninefingers (a. Post by Bolster Thu Oct 13, 2022 1130 pm. so there is a range that the company will shoot for like 1. Re m39020cv vs s30v. And the steel did significantly better than the common powder metallurgy stainless steels such as 20CV, M390, S30V, S35VN, CPM-154, S90V, etc. I think S90V is just a tad too brittle for my liking. You can already tell that M390 is better than Nitro-V stainless. The s30v is easy to sharpen, and unless you use the crap out of it. This is also the type of steel used most often for surgical applications. Howdy do, again. All slightly different flavors with different attribute balances. Like k390 they have high vanadium, which forms especially hard carbides (to a lesser extent than k390, thanks to the high chromium content, although s110v also has added niobium which contributes very hard carbides as well). Edit forgot to include Elmax. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Further fast-quench and cold treatment are recommended at 400. boogarbutt 1 yr. Native Chief S90V Rex45. My 940-1 had one of the poorer BM edges. Post by skeeg11 Wed Oct 12, 2022 305 pm. 20CV is composed of 1. Both the blades are premium, and they have an almost similar rate of performance. Forum rules. Perhaps B-U's 3rd generation micro. According to various tests, the hardness of the M390 is much more than the S90V. This material is very stain resistant and has excellent wear resistance. Pros Cons How to Choose Between the M390 and the S30V Toughness Edge Retention Corrosion Resistance Ease of Sharpening Intention of Use Price What. >> See knives with M390 steel. m390 2100500 F 59. M390 steel and S35VN offer equal corrosion resistance. The thread seems to point towards M390 being a superior steel as well easier to sharpen compared to the S90V. M390 vs S90V. Re M390 vs S90V. CPM S110V vs. Forum rules. 5 and the new M398 has about 30, so there has been an increase in carbide of almost 50. For some context; according to crucible s90v has a higher impact toughness than 440c. M390 vs S90V. The CPM 20CV uses a comparatively lower concentration of Vanadium than the CPM S90V. Forum rules. M390 Vs. 40 posts Previous; 1; 2; z1r Member Posts 1586 Joined Fri Mar 19, 2021 439 am Location Lakewood, CO. It is a bit below steels like ZDP-189, S90V, and 20CVM390. S110v vs M390 pm2. Howdy do, again. We have to stop putting SO MUCH VALUE in blade steel alone. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. But if we compare, then we would find that M390 is more stress-tolerant than N690. I like them both, although I would personally take M4 if forced to choose. But unless you are cutting all day long and needing to resharpen frequently, then that's not a reason, either. Week before I got an S90V ZT 0095 but didn&39;t get around to fixing the edge up until last week. So M398 may be somewhat easier to sharpen than S90V, S110V, or S125V but more difficult than M390, S60V, and ZDP-189. It has only been three weeks but i am liking this 20cv very much. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. At A Glance. It is often compared to other steels due to its balanced properties. Kind regards,. M4 steel and S90Vsteel are produced using the same manufacturing process, which is the Particle Metallurgy process. CPM S30V by Buck heat treated by Boss on 110 holds 20th place and M390 by BM on 710 holds 21st. S90V offers better edge retention than S30V because it contains more Carbon and Vanadium in its composition. M390 steel is considered CTS 204P equivalent by most knife makers. If your main priority is a knife that does not require frequent sharpening, go for S90V. M390 is equally as tough is not a little less though than s90v. Post by skeeg11 Wed Oct 12, 2022 305 pm. Made in Sweden by Bohler-Uddeholm. Final Thoughts. Search Advanced search. M390 vs S90V. A czowiek liczy na co lepszego za tak fors. To me the 20cv seems like the best of both worlds. Its main advantage is that it is easy to sharpen (easier than S90v steel, at least) and is not too shabby when it comes to corrosion and wear resistance. May 10, 2022 S90V vs M390 steel. S110V 2150975 F 62. M390 steel is known for its excellent edge retention, which has been confirmed through various tests. Re M390 vs S90V. These blade steels provide superior hardness, sharpness, and edge retention. 5 RC. Edge Retention. That would ELIMINATE all of the premium HARD steels (like M390, S110V, S90V, 20CV, S45VN, etc. CPM 20CV Known for its excellent wear resistance and corrosion resistance, CPM 20CV is used in premium knives and various industrial applications. The 20CV is a bit brittle, which allows the S90V to take the lead. Re M390 vs S90V. Which steel in your opinion is superior to the other as a well rounded steel. For thin blades higher toughness is actually preferable imo. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Next; skeeg11 Member Posts 1407 Joined Thu Feb 20, 2020 545 am. S90V is really not a great steel IMO. Again, in the table, S30V wins in wear resistance. Wear Resistance The Elmax has 1. 8 of Carbon. M390 vs N690 - Comprehensive Comparison Hardness. However, the datasheet has an asterisk next to the 143 value and says that it is "based upon market feedback. Forum rules. Forum rules. The knives are in Hawthorne, CA. It holds an edge about as long as M390, while being way harder to sharpen and far, far more brittle. I'm looking at the upcoming release of the Native Chief Brown G-10 M390 Sprint Run (C244GDBN) next Tuesday. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. I've even had significantly better results with M390 than I have with S90V. Bohler-Uddeholms M390 and Crucible Industries S90V are two high-performing blade steels. While both steels are great for edge retention, Elmax steel is slightly less wear-resistant than M390 steel. S35VN VS Elmax. Although S35V seems to be better on toughness, this toughness can be incorporated in S45VN through heat treatment at 2000 F. bearfacedkiller Member Posts 11327. 0 V - 9. M390 has 0. M390 is premium steel, while Nitro-V belongs to the high-end category. Like was mentioned above for hard use m4 is better if you don&x27;t need it to be stainless. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Forum rules. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Next; skeeg11 Member Posts 1412 Joined Thu Feb 20, 2020 545 am. M390 (same as CPM-20CV and CTS-204P for all practical purposes) might be a bit easier to sharpen than D2. For example, S90V has a pretty shitty 310 in toughness and the summary says "This blade steel exhibits good toughness, but it does not meet the level of M390. Howdy do, again. Post by skeeg11 Wed Oct 12, 2022 305 pm. The green CTS-204P (same steel from a different company) PM2 went for 140 first run (plus 8 shipping) and 150 shipped second run from KW. Funny thing about performance is you have to ignore marketing. Forum rules. Again, M390 isnt bad to sharpen anyways. S90V and S125V are capable of rather high hardness, approximately 66 Rc given an appropriate heat treatment. Stretch 2 XL G10 Cruwear. Depending on heat treatment, S90V can have better wear resistance than M4. I&x27;ve seen plenty of S90V vs 20CP but those we already know are pretty close to one another, I was searching for answers on those steels up against M4 or M390 (and feel free to add the other 10 steels that you say are better. D2 Steel is tempered at a higher temperature than N690 Steel, which makes it less hard and more brittle. But it does chip. In addition to this, they have different tempering and. Coarse and polished edge results both No data on S90V, unfortunately. 9 carbon. refresh datatable without refreshing page jquery, sikasil ws295
Given a choice between the 2 steels everything else being the same I would choose S90V. . M390 vs s90v
Search Advanced search. Both M390 and CPM 3V steel offer exceptional wear resistance, making them good choices for use in most knives. Post by skeeg11 Wed Oct 12, 2022 305 pm. Are there any advantages of S110V over S90V Also how does M390 compare Thanks. Search Advanced search. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Perhaps B-U&39;s 3rd generation micro clean powder may be finer grain allowing M390 to be easier to sharpen. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. (M390 and M398), Crucible (S30V, S90V, S125V, S145V, S60V, MPL. M390 vs S90V. Forum rules. I&x27;m looking at the upcoming release of the Native Chief Brown G-10 M390 Sprint Run (C244GDBN) next Tuesday. Search Advanced search. Should be able to hold up a bit better for everyday use. 6) And there are bonus points if the steel is easy to grind and polish for the knife manufacturer or custom maker. Forum rules. link2VmYv2AShop BHQ - httpsshrsl. It has excellent edge retention and wear resistance, as well as excellent corrosion resistance. History of M390 in Knives. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Bolster Member Posts 4871 Joined Sat Mar 03, 2007 727 pm Location CalyFRNia. The 21 gives some perspective on the categories in your review on BF. This is in comparison with 440C which is 100, S30V at 145, and M39020CV at 180. Nov 23, 2020 S90V was patented around 1996, the major innovation over previous steels was a reduction in Cr down to 14 which led to the formation of more vanadium carbide for a given amount of vanadium. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. I suppose there could be small differences in performance caused by different PM processes, but nothing likely to be. s35vn steel is a lot tougher compared to s90v steel. Re M390 vs S90V. Oct 24, 2023 Final Thoughts. M390 is exceptionally sharp and harder than Magnacut. S35VN VS S90V. S110V vs. M4 is somewhere in the Rc 63-65 range and is much harder than other steels. ELMAX is also a High Carbide steel, slightly less than M390 and less complicated to HT and Temper. There are very few folders with 3V (Spyderco Tuff is the only one I can think of), and I have never seen a. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. 6) And there are bonus points if the steel is easy to grind and polish for the knife manufacturer or custom maker. But the M390 has a hardness of 60-62HRC. I already have a Native Chief in S90V that I rarely carry because I love my Native Shaman just too damned much. Post by FeistyKat Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. But again those are very different edges. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. Post by Bolster &187; Thu Oct 13, 2022 1130 pm. Forum rules. If stainless is not important or if you take care of your blade try the k390. I found that M390 holds an edge as well as CPM-M4, but is slightly harder to sharpen. M390 and 20CV can stand more abuse and stay sharp for a long time. Jun 21, 2019 2m390 M390Bohler-Uddeholm BohlerUddeholm . So we should discuss why the carbon content would need to be regulated or controlled in the first place. The S30V is softer than the M390. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. Despite s90v steel being very corrosion resistant, m390 steel is much more so. M390 vs S90V. 2, with a corresponding increase in carbon to maintain the same level of hardness after heat treatment. However, it was not commonly used in knives until after the release of any of those products. Edge Retention. You can already tell that M390 is better than Nitro-V stainless steel. I also did experiments to analyze the different products including carbide size, impurity levels, and inclusions. S30V scored 300 cuts. m39020cv vs s30v. 1 HRC S30V Paramilitary 2 - (58. CPM 20CV vs. S45VN steel has about 1 more chromium carbide volume when compared to S35VN steel. CPM 20CV vs S90V. For optimum stress relieving and dimensional stability, S90V may be double tempered at 1000-1025F (540-550C), but tempering above 800F (425C) may result in some. Re M390 vs S90V. Re M390 vs S90V. Howdy do, again. S110V has improved corrosion resistance at the cost of some toughness compared to S90V. A czowiek liczy na co lepszego za tak fors. Search Advanced search. Forum rules. M390 vs S90V. Post by m4d Sun Sep 20, 2015 1107 pm. 5 RC. What a good steel for so many knives and its a lot cheaper these days due to popularity. Neither types of steel are easy to sharpen or grind, but m390 steel is slightly easier to sharpen than its k390 counterpart. 52 posts 1; 2; 3; Next; FeistyKat Member Posts 148 Joined Sun May 03, 2020 645 am Location inSane Diego. The 20CV is a bit brittle, which allows the S90V to take the lead. 4V should be in the neighborhood as well, with a more wearless toughness than CPM Cruwear balance. This means you don't have to sharpen your knife as often. M390 vs S90V. M390 vs 20CV vs 204P - 3rd Generation Powder Metallurgy. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. It does better for wear resistance at 60-62 Rc, but because it is the so tough, you could push the hardness up to 60-61 Rc and have a very tough, very wear resistant, very stainless blade. M390 vs S30v M390 performs slightly better in toughness, hardness, and edge retention. Results Both knives performed extremely well as expected with S90V over M390 in the end by 21 or 460 to 380 cuts. Both knife steel have inherent brittleness which is par for the course with hard steel but the Rockwell hardness rating of 60 62 for M390 steel makes it slightly harder than S90V. M390 vs S90V. Discuss Spyderco&x27;s products and history. S90V and M390 are the perfect choices for high-end knife crating due to their composition, structure, and properties. S90V 2150975 F 61. Depending on actual use a person may or may not see the difference. Imagine S30V wear with almost 3 times the shock and toughness (3V and PD1 can get almost up to 3-4 times the shock toughness). Both K390 steel and M390 steel are developed by the same company, but M390 steel offers outstanding corrosion resistance and wear resistance compared to K390 steel. Search Advanced search. CPM M4 is best Crucible performer. Both steels are available in annealed, normalised, quenched & tempered forms. Forum rules. S110v vs M390 pm2. To me the 20cv seems like the best of both worlds. 0 V - 9. Howdy do, again. As a hard steel, S30V holds its edge very. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Bolster Member Posts 4702 Joined Sat Mar 03, 2007 727 pm Location CalyFRNia. Forum rules. Search Advanced search. Forum rules. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Bolster Member Posts 4800 Joined Sat Mar 03, 2007 727 pm Location CalyFRNia. Search Advanced search. Advantages Extremely high wear resistance and corrosion resistance. Rex45 had the best edge retention with 530 TRC. Both M390 and CPM 3V steel offer exceptional wear resistance, making them good choices for use in most knives. Steel manufacturers are constantly refining the elements used in making steel to produce new and better steel. CPM s90v Machinability Due to its high vanadium carbide content, the. 35 posts Previous; 1; 2; chuckroxas45 Member Posts 8776 Joined Wed Mar 03, 2010 1143 pm Location Small City, Philippines. How Good is CPM 20CV Knife Steel - KnifeUp. 6) HRC S90V Mule - 59. The non-stainless 10V without chromium carbides has a finer overall carbide structure with less clumping of carbides. Below shows the results of CATRA experiments reported by others that I have shown in other articles. K390 Steel vs M390. Comparison Points Maxamet M390; Composite Materials 13. The S45VN datasheet provides a number for CATRA edge retention relative to 440C, which it lists as 143. Forum rules. I dont see the high carbide steel craze dying soon, its ok since I like to check out the newest steel but I do wish more knives would be made in simpler steels with better heat treats. Search Advanced search. CPM-S90V A precursor to CPM-S30V, CPM-S90V was developed by Crucible in 1996 while attempting to create a new high-wear-resistance stainless steel tougher than similar steels like M390 and CPM-20CV. S110V vs. Of the two I prefer S90V. Magnacut, on the other hand, has a fantastic balance of toughness, hardness, and edge retention. For S90V I'd pay a bit more, but not for ZDP-189. Post by z1r Mon Sep 20, 2021 251 pm. M390 vs S90V. S35VN is easier to sharpen, but doesnt have as good edge retention. Both 20CV and S30V steels are known for their excellent edge retention, but 20CV steel offers better edge retention. Post by FeistyKat Tue Oct 11, 2022 953 pm. M390 has better edge retention than the S35vn. 52 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Next; skeeg11 Member Posts 1362 Joined Thu Feb 20, 2020 545 am. However, it was not commonly used in knives until after the release of any of those products. The exceptional hardness, edge retention, and wearcorrosion resistance make the M390 the best steel to make knives. First thing to note S30V is usually heat treated to Rc 57-59 range, and sometimes in the Rc 59-60 range. . mini schnauzer puppies for sale near me